a good good thing

2019: a good good review

January 27, 2020 Neil Thornton + Jack Ratcliffe Season 1 Episode 13
a good good thing
2019: a good good review
Show Notes Transcript

We're back! We know it's almost February but Happy New Year to all! We hope 2020 has been full of good good things for you already. Before we crack on with 2020's good good things, we're taking a moment to reflect and look back on some of the biggest stories from 2019; from tales of trees and the mobilisation of the world's youth to successes in the fight against climate change and human rights wins across the globe. Plus, Jack's new obsession with Gregg's vegan sausage role. So sit back, relax, put your headphones in and let the good times commence. Here's to a good good year to come, thanks for joining us.


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About your hosts


A New Media artist currently undertaking a PhD in virtual reality, Jack is motivated by the positive impact technology can have on our day to day lives both operationally and emotionally. Outside of PhDs and podcasting, Jack is a proud dad to three turtles and an ever-growing number of house plants.  Find Jack at @jacktionman on Instagram and Twitter


A digital content editor by day, Neil is also a men’s lifestyle blogger at whatneildid.com where he covers a range of topics from travel and style to health and mental well-being. You’ll never find him too far from a coffee.   Find Neil at @Whatneildid  on Instagram and Twitter 

Jack:   0:06
I am so excited to be back  

Neil:   0:09
Jack. It's 2020

Jack:   0:11
 2020 the year off.  

Neil:   0:14
Change new possibilities.  

Jack:   0:17
You know that's every year, right?

Neil:   0:18
I know right, I love. It's always my favourite thing about New Year. Is this like, perfect? No, even dear people being like This is my year. It was the same day yesterday, Really, like there's no different.

Jack:   0:29
No, no, this is a whole new decade.

Neil:   0:31
My friend Daniel actually put it really well in that It's not about looking it as like a rebirth of change. It's more like a renewal. It's a re energise ation off the goals that you had before, which I thought was quite good.

Jack:   0:43
A zit like everything is just some kind of construct in the minds of man. Yeah, yeah, and

Neil:   0:51
it's all just marketing brands to get you to start buying into new stuff in January.

Jack:   0:55
That is incredibly cynical,

Neil:   0:56
and I fall for it every year. I've bought 17 new equipment pieces for the gym. I've bought new gym here. I've put detox cheques, haven't having it all.

Jack:   1:05
It's I always get jealous of the people who go to the gym in the New Year because I know everyone is like, Oh, look, is those people who go to the gym for one month only. But you know what? Those are the people who haven't done it before on DH feel like, yeah, I can actually make a change. Where's Mei? I've kind of resided to the fact that I'm gonna be kind of rubbish forever.

Neil:   1:23
I see. I completely agree here. I feel like I'm one of the few people in the gym that actually quite likes the January newbies. I kind of Yeah, go, you for getting in, whether you last a month, two months or this is the start of your journey, like, you know, well done for getting in there. And it's just you can sense the energy in the gym of everyone trying. I think the only thing for me is, and it's not just the new visits. The old hats as well is if your if your parents taught you have to share the gym would be a lot easier. It's only hard because no one dares anything, and that's why you can't get what you need.

Jack:   1:51
It's also hard because you're like lifting weights, right? That's a hard thing to

Neil:   1:54
you. take a rest and then like

Jack:   1:56
us every 30 seconds for another 35 seconds. You know, right now it's time to switch it out. Ah, I'm actually really upset because I thought you were going to disagree. And I thought we'd have some kind of, you know, contrast ing viewpoint to request the discussion.

Neil:   2:10
I probably know if you'd asked me, like two years ago. Probably would have disagreed, but I've changed my grown on DH. Now I fully embrace it.

Jack:   2:18
Well, I would say that is a good, good thing. And this is a good, good thing. Welcome back, everyone. Yes. Apologies for the large absence. It was mainly my fault. I was in Austria and then China on DH. Now I'm

Neil:   2:31
back. Humble brag there, and I've just been sat in studio all alone since then. Waiting.

Jack:   2:36
You could have gone home. We

Neil:   2:37
actually have three episodes there. Just me talking. But we figured that they would be quite boring.

Jack:   2:42
Yeah, way. Listen back to the moment. Ah, many. I mean,

Neil:   2:47
we know that I have the nicer voice to listen to you, but, you know, bit more animated. Look at me like that. No one can see the look. It's audio. You have to say something. Getting a look. I'm sorry. Come on, carry on. So it's our first episode of 2020 and we wanted to start this episode on this year by taking a look back on DH Having a look at some of the biggest and most amazing storeys that came out ofthe 2019 on DH. There was quite a few. It took awhile. Toe whittle it down, Teo top 10. So, Jack, I think you're going to kick us off, right?

Jack:   3:26
Yes. One of my favourite storeys or collection ofthe storeys because there was more than one involving this topic was plastic bands.

Neil:   3:34
It was a good well, is a good year for plastic. Or it was a bad year for plastic, which is a good year for people.

Jack:   3:39
Yes, I must say, I'm upset. You can kind of get on my plastic bands. You know, this plastic bands, plastic bands. Oh, yeah. This is an indifferent year for plastic bands, which are actually more like rubber. True, but like

Neil:   3:54
all that rubber band, that's why I didn't get it.

Jack:   3:56
Okay. Some people call them plastic people. Linguistics jokes never go down. Well, anyway. Okay. So plastic plastic bands. So there have been lots of plastic bands. We all know that plastic is bad for the environment. They found micro plastics in all kinds of places, like the sea and the air on DH fish and humans and basically everywhere they found plastic on. They are not sure what kind of effect this will have on our bodies, our environment and our worlds. So lots of places air now, like we should ban plastics, including the European Union. Well, including the European Union, who announced that they will be planning plastic cutlery, plastic plates, plastic straws, cotton buds on DH food containers and polystyrene cups. Which makes sense. It really annoys me that we have these amazing qualities. And then we like, Oh, by the way, that the remains of this party will exist for 1000 years. Yeah, like no party is that good? So we're not just talking about the European Union because the Indian state of Tamil Nadu has imposed a full ban on all single use plastics and yeah, 80 million people s so larger than the UK, but will now be plastic free. Wow, Single use Plastic Re will still be allowed to use longer term

Neil:   5:19
shows that it's possible that you've just got to make the decision and make it happen.

Jack:   5:23
Canada will be doing something similar to the U. S. Where to go Canada Costa Rica have put in a new law banning All Star A phone cups, containers and packaging. Um, Bali's plastic band has gone into effect. Panama has banned plastic bands. Thailand is phasing out microbeads. You know the stuff that you have in yet face watches, although it's important to note that you shouldn't get one with ground. Armand's instead because they like, cut up the skin.

Neil:   5:52
Yeah, yeah, they can cause a little like capillary damage, and it's not good for you. It'll also we should just produce the mad bombers that we're producing again. That's a whole other conversation.

Jack:   6:03
But while we are on this topic, I am super excited about all of these plastic bands. But the biggest cause, which people don't seem to be talking about too much, are in man made clothing fibres on DH. Everyone is still wearing those quite happily, and I think we're going to see in 2020 a lot of discussion about actually going back to natural fibres, that breakdown in nature because things like polyester or nylon, which may in fact be the same thing. Um, they are what's causing the majority off plastics again to our waterways and environment.

Neil:   6:35
I didn't know that. It is interesting, though, isn't it? Because they the point of the man May ones yeah, it was because it was cheaper and quicker to produce

Jack:   6:45
and also have them certain properties and moths don't eat them. But yeah, I guess is good.

Neil:   6:49
But that's not what that's gonna be. A whole companies out that just don't even produce natural fibre. Close. That's really interesting, because their brands that I mean about that they're just cheap, affordable brands that do it. There also brands who specifically work with those fabrics. That's quite interesting.

Jack:   7:06
We'll see what happens in 20.

Neil:   7:08
What is going to do for a lot of like, you know, kind of photo faux brands that don't do like, you know thatyou, vegan leather and all that kind of stuff because that's what heavy plastic and

Jack:   7:16
yeah, it's true. In fact, I've met some people, some environmentalists who are big on using animal fur I mean, not big, not huge, but saying it's much more ethical than using plastic for. But that's a whole other debate. Not for this. What I am saying 2019 a good year for being bad for plastic.

Neil:   7:38
The next one I don't talk about is cars, cars. So this is one that I have sounded off before, not necessarily on this podcast, but with friends and on social media. Because there is the technology for hybrid cars, electric cars have made massive strides. And so this is one of those radical changes that needs toe happen where I'm like they like. Governments need to just be like, Fine. We have hybrid cars now. There is no reason to be making a purely fossil, fuel driven car anymore. Um, on DH. Yeah, it's from that. And obviously I appreciate that there's money involved in doing that, but it's something that we definitely could do. And it's 2019 sort some great strides in the automaker's industry towards a greener future on. So basically, this was around a lot of the big giant in the automaker's industry, kind of putting their money where their mouth is on DH. They've collectively committed $225 billion by 2023 for electric vehicle production on DH. Volkswagen, which is one of the largest in the world, has put aside at 4 44 million No. $44 billion as like an electric offensive on Dev promised to abandon all development of fossil fuel driven cars by 2026 which is a matted deal. Also quite smart on Volkswagen, considering they were, they were the, like, the naughty child for years. For that for avoiding pollution issues with their cars. Yes, then on actually hiding issues. It makes sense for them to try and get ahead of the game on that, and I just think to kind of put it into context. Like in the US The cars responsible for 75% of the CO two pollution and 2/3 of their smoke pollution so like cars are a big deal, and it's this again. It's that thing to the point of plastics where because we have them on DH cars or just something we don't think about there. I start every day mode, you know, no one thinks tow, try and change it, but actually It is one of those decisions where there's no reason that we shouldn't be driving hybrid cars now that you know could run off electricity most of the time. It's part of the fact that it would just make for a lot quieter streets. Um, it's just yet There's no reason for us to just be driving around purely petrol or diesel cars anymore. S Oh yes, the cards, which I thought was a really good one for 19. I'm excited to see that progression, and I think in the way that quite how long I was it, like eight years or so ago, they did the government of the drive where you got they gave you money toward the new car. If you updated your hole card to a more fuel efficient and it emissions efficient one, they need to do that again. For electric, Teo encourage people toe swap over. Finally,

Jack:   10:23
that makes a lot of sense. What about charging stations

Neil:   10:27
again? So that's where to my point of like, obviously, I appreciate that it takes money to get involved. Hybrid cars is the first port, of course. Obviously you then have petrol consumption, but it's it's heavily reduced because then the cast, which is over to its electric engine, where is for purely electric cars? That's where there's a huge infrastructure, um, money and put needed. Because there aren't as many charging points that becomes the conversation of, like wood they do. You put them in shopping malls in their car park so that you can pay for your ticket and for fuel if you're doing it, so you have a charge there. That's part of a much bigger conversation, which I appreciate isn't gonna happen overnight. But I do think when you have hybrids that could heavily impact the amount of the mission's going out in the world in the amount of fossil fuel consumption within cars, there's no reason to not be doing it like I already

Jack:   11:18
annoyed it, cause you know why. Like like I often walk down the streets and I see the same cars just sitting there parked. I'm like, Wow, car spend like 90% of their lives just not doing anything.

Neil:   11:30
Yeah, 100% on Don't I say all of this as someone that loves driving like driving is one of my favourite things. When I was young, I couldn't wait to learn to drive. I grew up around cars like my brother, my father, car dealers and they work on cars. And so it's just, yeah, I've always loved driving, but I just think it's my love of driving and want to Dr Khan outweigh Ah, the needs of the planet. Wow, Hee, I'll argue about it, but I'm not gonna win it.

Jack:   12:03
Trees. Oh, that's my next one.

Neil:   12:07
Yeah, trees up, trees up on the aisle. Getting pretty tool.

Jack:   12:11
Yeah, they just keep on growing.

Neil:   12:12
There's redwoods we saw in America are really tall.

Jack:   12:15
Ah, yeah, that's that's what I was one of the really talked about how it's awesome to Tweens trees, a tool on DH. That's a good So the world said there was a research study by NASA this year on DH. It realised that trees were the worlds tree cover was actually 5% up on a few decades ago, which is cool like you don't really think when you think about oh, Australia being on fire on DH, the Amazon being burnt down to make room for a cow farming. You don't think like oh, we're ever going to catch up on this kind of stuff, but the world is 5% greener. So we good things are happening happening mostly in China. Actually, they're massively outperforming with their new tree initiatives. Um, on DH, trees are good for all kinds of reasons. One, they take carbon out the air so they can build themselves, which in itself is amazing. Two. They provide homes and habitats for animals. Three they prevent against desertification. That's like the encroachment on desserts on fertile lands. Not the encroachment of delicious puddings. Um, on DH. So yeah, it's We're up 5% green cover. China is up like 11%. India's up 7% use up 4%. The USA is up 2%. Even Brazil. Indonesia, famous for famous in our media for getting rid of their trees in the last two decades, have gone up north. 20.5% on

Neil:   13:42
Wasn't it was Ethiopia. That part planted something like 350 million in a day.

Jack:   13:47
Ethiopia planted 353 million trees in one day. I

Neil:   13:52
can't even get my head around how that happened and how that worked.

Jack:   13:54
It was actually 12 hours, I think. I guess it worked out something like eight trees per person, I mean, but then you have to have every person. And I've never seen a baby plant a tree,

Neil:   14:06
Tru. But I think it's one of those things when you listen to these stats, though, and it's really important not to become complacent, because it's weird that we, you know, we hear these storeys about like, you know, Brazil and burning of the Rainforest. But then to hear that, actually at the same time. But overall it's up. It's really easy to suddenly sit back and be like, Okay, it's not that bad, but actually it's really important to know that, like for how long it takes these trees to grow, it's really easy to go back the other way. And actually, the time it would take the 350 million trees in Ethiopia to grow. You could easily be destroying every single other tree inn in Ethiopia, so it's kind of it's important that these are positives and their world is greener. But we're also doing a lot that's, you know, slowing that progress down.

Jack:   14:53
That's also a scale thing as well, which is the New Zealander committed to planting a 1,000,000,000 trees in the next decade, which is great. But recent studies stay. We need, like a trillion trees planted to kind of stave off the effects of climate change for the next 20 years. Um, so realistically, we need 1000 initiatives. Sides of New Zealand's in orderto to present prevent what is a huge climate problem. Um, which could happen like we could do that Ethiopia did 353 million in a day in 12 hours, actually, um and so, yeah, it's like good green up. But then CEO of the next decade we can get up from, like, 5% or more like 30% because

Neil:   15:35
the queen has her one as well, doesn't she? It's the canopy initiative where she around the Commonwealth. They've been getting different Commonwealth countries, too, not just plant trees but also protect Mohr and Mohr off their forests. So I think it's also it's not just that single country initiative, but it then actually countries joining up on DH, doing it together so that, like one doesn't necessarily feel responsible for everything.

Jack:   16:04
I like that you said one. It's like you're talking as if you were the queen.

Neil:   16:07
One happened and I I think that's kind of leads on to my next one. Quite well, eh? So the other thing I think was great 2019 was what has been described as the youth quake politicalisation on activation ofthe young people around the world in politics, activism from kind of writings of countries to the environment, I think off, See, climate change is the biggest one with my hero Gratitude, Enberg, which I've spoken about multiple times on this podcast. Greta Greta is a great example of the mobilisation of young people today. How her speaking out on climate change in the climate crisis on the mass extinction that we're going into has galvanised the entire world with weekly climate strikes, millions upon millions of people have hit the streets in the cities around the world to protest against inaction of governments to help fight climate change. And further to that in UK politics. In our recent election, 2/3 of the three over three million people who registered to vote for the election were under 35 on DH. Young people are seeing how it's going to affect them and how the people that are making decisions aren't necessarily going to be around to feel those effects on. They're starting to get annoyed with it from things about the younger generations. Never needed to buy a house to again. As I said, the effects of climate change but also another great example is in New Zealand. With their recent elections, the amount of elected officials under 30 doubled, with some of their elected officials being as young as 18. And they were balancing going out and canvassing while working in McDonald's. Wait about

Jack:   17:50
this separately and I was like, I am fully supportive off young people being invoked by remember myself being an 18 year old, and I would not want him in charge of any kind of currents

Neil:   18:00
that I do think if you think about how long ago we were 18 I think actually 18 year olds nowadays are a lot more switched on, a lot more aware. I'm not more engaged, and I think when you've got people like just in the Arden from New Zealand or you've got Alexandra Casio Cortez in America, there is a lot of younger people inspiring everyone and actually the younger people are the voice of reason on DH. I think That's kind of why they're a lot more politicised. And so I think that's been a really great thing. And I think as much as you know, elections may have not gone the way that people expected. Because of the impact of a youth quake that Peter like news has reported on. I think it does show where everything is going. Eventually

Jack:   18:44
mm youth. Eventually the youth will be ordered

Neil:   18:48
that the opinions and the beliefs

Jack:   18:51
and beetles off those so together everything right, Jack? What's next? So thiss one is my This isn't just my storey of the year This is my storey off the decade This's I cannot stress enough how I think that this encapsulate the state of the modern world on DH How positive change can come about in the world that we live in. Brace yourself, people. It is something huge and impactful. And I know you think I'm being trite. But I am serious when I say that my storey of 2019 My number one storey, My good news storey is the Greg's vegan sausage. Will I

Neil:   19:47
keep a straight face with this? You have not stopped talking about this 50 sausage ruffle. I Yeah, yeah. Congrats to deck. You could now get back on the fast food baked goods train.

Jack:   20:01
Okay, Firstly, thank you for just referring to as a sausage roll rather than a vegan sausage roll. Because I think that is the default that we should go to. You know, you could be like, I'll have the sausage roll or the meat sausage. Well, I think that's where we need toe trying to achieve. Um,

Neil:   20:16
what was it that actually came up in the House of Lords and Commons is, ah, thing where people were like You need Teo. You shouldn't be allowed to cool it. A vegan sausage roll because it's not sausage. Sausage is meat.

Jack:   20:29
Yeah, I want

Neil:   20:29
it. I need a new name there. I mean, one like as if there's not more important things to talk about in government, but yeah, no, I think it's a really interesting What about there, like, you know, not beef beef in order that kind of conversation.

Jack:   20:40
So I have a whole list of reasons why the vegan sausage roll encapsulate ce. I mean, it's not just because the sausage roll is tasty as a whole. A whole series of things that it symbolises

Neil:   20:52
gonna tell us now what I'm

Jack:   20:53
gonna tell them in explicit, excruciating detail on DH. No one knows when this finishes, so they have to keep listening until I'm

Neil:   21:01
a time stamp in the episode. Notes.

Jack:   21:03
Skipped 14 minutes, 35 seconds. If you don't wanna hear Jack talk about the vegan sausage or like a one, is vegan okay? Yes. Well done, Sherlock. That's good, right? There are lots of reasons why veganism is good. It's better for the planet tends to be better for people's health. Um, it's better for the animals, not just like the animals they get slaughtered to go into the meat, but also animal raising of animals. And the dairy industry tends to be quite problematic, especially in fast food, where you have no relationship with suppliers. You just kind of get to the end product. And historically, that has been quite bad. I mean, it is crazy that you could get two pieces of chicken from KFC for like, £2 like how much they pay for his chicken, how those chicken treated and wanted to get there, Um, so veganism your fast food has a lot ofthe ethical and environmental benefits so great we now have another option for that. Andi is popular, but on that more of a second point is that it tastes pretty much identical. Is a normal sausage roll. Have you had the vegan sausage roll?

Neil:   22:07
No, I was just thinking I haven't had that. We go after this and find the local Greg's.

Jack:   22:10
I mean, I can tell you it's like 16 minutes walk away. I know the specific route,

Neil:   22:15
but there won't be anything is. Actually, this is what we did discuss. Is that because I, um no, I can't have suited I shouldn't have eaten because I have an intolerance to it. That's why I stopped at the moment, because it's either one or the other. You have to get the gluten free, but it's with me or you get the vegan. But it's with gluten. And so I need someone please to do gluten free and vegan alternative meat.

Jack:   22:39
Yes, and when that happens, I'm sure it'll be a great day for Neil Thornton, specifically. But yeah,

Neil:   22:45
there will be there were other people like me, and I'm willing to for now put up with the pain and discomfort to try some of the visions off the drug.

Jack:   22:54
So the main point I'm getting two on this is that it is, ah, viable little times. If it's not like, Oh, I'm gonna have to step down, right? It's actually I'll have the one that's kind of a little bit less greasy and maybe even nicer than the original on DH like that's the first time I think that has happened in, like on convenience food industry, right?

Neil:   23:15
Yeah, because we've spoken about things like the impossible wearing stuff before, which I think, you know, are so on par with how tasty they are that you would actively order them. But they're not readily available. And I don't know. Yeah, I don't know the quick, fast food like grab and go to places that have kind of reached that level, and even so, with a lot of stuff you can buy from the shops,

Jack:   23:37
And that's why I think this is a turning point in fast food industry. We will look back to the Greg's vegan sausage Roll day and go Yes, yes,

Neil:   23:48
yes, on DH wacka mama's station satay, and we still didn't decide how that was pronounced last time we spoke about it suits their state on category. Great.

Jack:   23:59
Don't Don't hijack my don't. Look, I've got four more points on this. That's just no week. I've got four more points and you don't interrupt. I promise to be very quick.

Neil:   24:08
You just said the point I'm trying to get to, and you can't have four points afterwards.

Jack:   24:12
So the other points Jesus are that is British food. Okay, Now, British food kind of has a bad reputation internationally, and we generally, especially as like London based people, do really bad job of keeping track off our heritage foods like we we don't really engaging them because we get to explore all the other tastes of the world which are being imported into the city. But and also, when you do get British food out high quality. But it's food. It's very expensive. Um, but this is nice to see, like a British food, which is quality and being celebrated and being like encouraged. Um, and so that's that's really nice. Um, the success of the vegan saucer troll led to a £7 million bonus payout toe Greg staff. So that's incredible. Yeah, Excellent for the people involved. It's ushered in a new movement like we've just seen KFC start with its chicken replacement. Berger. We've seen Burger King start offering a meat alternative burger. So not just what's the vegetable burger meat Alternative burger. So we're seeing the repercussions of the success ofthe the Greg Sausage roll on individual workers incomes, and we're seeing it in other fast food joints trying to keep up. That's amazing. But we've

Neil:   25:26
also seen the repercussions of KFC trying to separate out of Ekin alternative. And they're not managing to actually serve that to people that order it. They've had so many complaints. Were they accidentally served chicken and their official response with Yeah, harder Hands up. It's not good.

Jack:   25:43
Yeah, I mean, they should serve the meat replacement when people order. Yeah, um, teething troubles. Get it teething thing Next point. The final point is that it is annoyed. All of the right terrible people, like all of the people, have complained about it very loudly in public forums. They're all awful people, and I'm glad they're annoyed. That's that's my final point there, then, God, Greg Sausage. Well,

Neil:   26:10
I'm actually quite looking forward. Toa finally getting to try it.

Jack:   26:12
Right? And I am on an affiliate deal. So for everyone that gets sold in relation to this, I get 10% of the profits.

Neil:   26:18
Cool there. All right, What's up next?

Jack:   26:22
Well, I want to go from consuming food to the other end of the spectrum and talk about poop.

Neil:   26:28
Oh, my God. I know this is that This is gonna be about India's sanitation, isn't it?

Jack:   26:34
It is going to be about

Neil:   26:36
his storey. It's actually like it seems silly to talk about it, but it's actually massive

Jack:   26:41
it is. Yet they had a massive poop issue which was essentially there, weren't there wasn't good sanitation on DH for a lot ofthe Indian people. They didn't have access Teo decent toilets on DH for the waist to be taken away on their safety issues. And so the government went on Ah, big sanitation drive. In the last five years, they've made 90 million toilets on 93 households now have access, which has meant 500 million people now do not have to poop outside anymore. Just crazy when you think about it. Like considering how like you, like, go to the toilet. I wanna have like seven doors around me like seven layers of wars, so I could be totally tranquil.

Neil:   27:25
Yeah, really? And I just don't think like when I first read it, I just hadn't quite understood that. That's that was the current situation before this, like 500 million people, is a huge amount like that, isn't it? Isn't that about half the population? And yeah, I just It's incredible that that's how it wass. I think that's a huge, huge change.

Jack:   27:51
Yeah, there have been problems with it, which I'm not gonna go into now, like lots of problems about how it was done. Maybe there was a lot of waste. Andi, I'm not really educated enough on the issue. But this storey really was for 2019 in start by it by Nepal, who declared that the country no longer has any household where there's open defecation is called open defecation free in 2019 8 years ago, nine million people in Nepal didn't have access to clean sanitation facilities. Um, now, like it's totally it's totally like the Global North in terms of toilets and

Neil:   28:32
say that's the thing, isn't it like it's so shocking for us being from Britain to hear on. Do you think that going into 2020 that this is still the case and a lot of places in the world that, like this basic hygiene functionality, is an accessible to a lot of people on? Hopefully, the next decade is going to be the time that that fully changes.

Jack:   28:52
Yeah, exactly. And it's not like it's not just make a joke about, like how having someone nice to poop but like it's not properly that where that gets into the water supply, like there were talks of women being attacked when they went to go to some kind of toilet in like the countryside to be ableto find like a quiet corner. So it really changes lives on it reduces illness, improve safety, all kinds of amazing factors, and so one it's we take it for granted so much on DH two. It's amazing that countries can do this, and there were these drives for it puts the quake sausage world in perspective. Actually,

Neil:   29:34
definitely. Okay, so next on the list is one that I want to talk about on DH again. This is another one that's kind of like an overarching theme with a few different bits to it. But, um, 2019 was also in many ways a great year for human rights on DH. At the same time, you know, I think you know why should you could probably say that it was. It was mixed in that there were attempts to roll back human rights in places around the around the globe. There have been many countries making big changes on this Khun come from big changes for the LGBTQ community on Taiwan. Legalised same sex marriage in May 2019 on by doing so became the first country in Asia to do so and then also Northern Ireland followed suit as well. Legalising Same sex marriage which goes into effect thiss month actually in January 2020. Northern Ireland also continue to see change by finally decriminalising abortion because up until this year, unless the expectant mothers life was in Jane in danger, abortion was illegal and the mother and the medical team who performed one were open to prosecution. So yes, there was some really great storeys that came out of 2019. Obviously we are also aware off, even in America Theatre tempt to roll back certain rights and access to health care on DH things like abortion for women. So again, it's the one thing that seems to be an overarching theme of 2019. And the things that have happened is it's also things that we should never take for granted, because for every step forward, we take their people that potential wanted trying to take us half a step back. Um, but yeah, those were just some good things I thought worth highlighting.

Jack:   31:17
Well. And Tony Benn used to say the famous left wing politician, You can never win the war. It's just the same battle fought over and over again until once I dies. Well, just slowing committee.

Neil:   31:33
I love that you came packed with quotes today.

Jack:   31:35
Yeah. I mean, if anyone knows that quote, I booted it. Really? He was such a hit man, and yeah, I think I think I hope no one that knows the quote is listening. That's all I can say. Um, poaching is down. That was one of my good storeys. That's a great storey. Yeah. So there's been lots of anti poaching in lots of places they use, like modern technology. Was like drones to help analyse it from and to cover more areas of ground, which is great. But the specific storey I was looking at was in Kenya. Poaching rates have dropped by 85% for rhinos and 78% for elephants in the last five years, which is pretty pretty high in south South Korea. No, there were no rhinos in South Korea. In South Africa, the number of rhinos killed by poachers for 25% which is 1/5 annual decrease in a row. Um, on DH in Mozambique, one of their one of the wildest wildlife reserves in Africa when a year without losing a single elephant. Poaching. That's incredible. Yes, we've got hate poaching storeys because on the one hand, I'm like, Well, there are people that are really willing to do horrible things. Two. I guess you know they're desperate economic conditions which might some people might argue, justify the actions that they take. But generally like killing those animals is a terrible thing for the world on DH poachers. Ah, anti poachers are managing toe. Reduce those in innovative on DH impressive ways, so good, good for anti poaching

Neil:   33:16
and I think also 2019. Well, it's not really that they happened 3 19 but there were loads of great reports out until the 19 about the positive effects that conservation efforts over the last decade have had. I think it was. Humpback whales have gone up from being almost extinct from over over poaching to being up to about There's like 25,000 off them now. So they back up that 95% of their original numbers. So and I think tigers in India on their increases well, so there's definitely being a lot of good news storeys. I think China's opening its biggest protected wildlife reserve. That's got something like 1500 panders. So it has been a lot of really

Jack:   34:03
one of those days.

Neil:   34:04
I know I have such a thing for pandas. Just stupidest animal with the best like this. So silly

Jack:   34:09
you have this thing with orca whales, don't you? That they should be could kill away as they should be called sea pandas. No,

Neil:   34:15
I don't at all. I said to you that I'd seen a stand up comedy gig on TV where this guy was talking about how they should call them see pandas so that then they come across nicer. And we were there talking about how it's like, you know, this was underplaying how savagely intelligent and murderers that they are.

Jack:   34:33
Yeah, I don't think we should put pandas in the same ballpark as orcas

Neil:   34:36
know. It's like a great disguise for the organ. Like now I'm just a

Jack:   34:39
soup panda. Have you ever seen a red panda? Yes. Hello, Fred pants.

Neil:   34:43
Red pandas are very cute. Noah Celia's pandas. They're pretty safe. Not silly is a pound a pound of that

Jack:   34:48
scared one. Once I was in, like this enclosure and I accidentally turned round and it wasn't expecting me. And its little scared face was so cute. And then I was like, Good, you again? Yeah, on That's how the numbers dropped by 95% Green energy in the U. K. In fact, green energy everywhere but green energy generally is doing well.

Neil:   35:09
It's been a very good year for energy storeys.

Jack:   35:12
Yeah, it's. But when I say this, I mean any degeneration and electricity usage in homes and businesses, so I don't mean like green energy and cars. For example, I mean green energy for household on industry use Eyes doing really well in the UK Cole uses massively down good because it's very polluting. Wind power is very up, which is great, especially in the UK, because we have access to the North Sea, which gives us lots of free wind. I mean, the wind is free, but the building it isn't building the turbines isn't. And that comes from the back of a report from a company called a lizard well at an industry benchmarking agency called Lazar, who have said that new wind and solar power is below the cost ofthe keeping existing coal and nuclear plants running. So it's cheaper now.

Neil:   36:05
This's even with subsidies for, isn't it? They said that the it's not, you know, it's not the subsidies that they make it cheaper. It's now just cheaper to produce and use renewable energies.

Jack:   36:15
Yeah, and a lot of the old arguments are like, Oh, well, it's not. It's more expensive. That one is now done. The only other one is that it's always Sunday. It's always windy, exactly, but it's always sunny somewhere in the world, and it's always windy somewhere in the world. Um,

Neil:   36:31
but I think this is that that ties into, like the hybrid car thing like we've got it. Then the point is, is that should be the default and then you have if you need it. Fossil fuels the backup. It shouldn't ever be the norm to be using fossil fuels or anything.

Jack:   36:47
Yes, and so the UK ran 43% clean energy last year, there was a report out. Actually, the report I saw was like, 0 52%. But that included, like, 9% or something of energy brought in from abroad, which I don't think counters clean energy because someone has generated that were really bad at being like Look at the UK is figures, but it's because it's outsourcing the emissions to another country. So I've reduced that down to 43% fam, which I think is fair. Um, and there's lots more like California's doing well. Germany's doing well. New Zealand has big plans, but I want to talk about like the countries that don't tend to get much of a mentioned. So, for example, Chile has reached its 2025 clean energy targets six years ahead of schedule, along with it, and along with eight other Latin American countries have set a target reduction off a tight production off 70% renewable energy by 23 30. That is more than double what the US planning. Okay, so we like we think about Europe when we think about the UK and we think about America. But the countries who have smaller economies than us are doing Mohr to move to renewable energies quicker than us on one. That's amazing. Good on those guys, and two little shameful on us, and we need to try harder.

Neil:   38:05
Can I be dead without the kit? Is that Is there something in the the smaller economies is also because they don't necessarily have as much entrenched infrastructure as places in Europe do. So It's easier to adopt new technologies infrastructure.

Jack:   38:20
So some would argue that, but others will argue well, that also means they've benefited leased from the current carbon emissions or the carbon emissions of the last 30 40 50 years, and therefore they should be paying. They should be shouldering less of a burden, then the countries who have exploited the carbon. I know

Neil:   38:40
there is on it exactly. I think that's more than fair.

Jack:   38:43
Well, good you speak to the UK on, I'll go to Chilean. Congratulate them.

Neil:   38:47
Done. All right, all right. So we're onto our last good good thing of 2019. And actually, this perfectly follows on from your one about being energy. And this is a really, really big one that actually finishes 2019 and starts in 2020 for the next decade. And that is the announcement off the Earth shot prize. And so we've got a guest in studio who's gonna talk a little bit more about that now,

Jack:   39:22
hours is a world of wonder. Every day. It reminds us of its beauty. But it also warns us that we can no longer take life as we know it for granted. But humans have an extraordinary power to solve the greatest of challenges. The most audacious of mall to land a man on the moon, a Moonshot, A seemingly impossible task that over a single decade became a reality. And along the way, united the world. This year, Prince William on the Global Alliance launched the most prestigious environment prize in history The Earth shot prize. A decade of action to repair our

Neil:   40:18
So yes, that waas So David Attenborough and that was

Jack:   40:22
you. Imagine we got him in Just just like Can you sit here while we talk about nonsense with our boring, uninformed opinion? Maybe he loves Greg's. I think he would be on my side with quicksand.

Neil:   40:34
God, I would be like, Yes, I would lose my collective Teo, Meet David after breath. But yes, the shop prize was announced just for Christmas, and it is an initiative from Prince William on DH. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge is World Foundation, and the Earth shot prize is billed as the most prestigious environmental prize in history. And it's a bid to galvanise a decade of action to repair the planet.

Jack:   41:05
They should speak to Chile and the Latin American countries

Neil:   41:07
They probably did they engaged with over. I think it was over 60 different organisations around the world as they planned and build built. This initiative, the Usher prize aims to encourage and inspire people across the world to find innovative new solutions to some of the gravest problems facing the Earth s Oh, it's a monetary prize. They're going to award to five winners a year over the next 10 years with yearly award ceremonies in different cities every year from 2000 and one with the aim that by the end of the decade they will have 50 actionable solutions to the world's greatest problems. So, by 2030

Jack:   41:47
how much money are we talking?

Neil:   41:49
That is, they said, multi £1,000,000. There's no set figure yet. Eso more announcements coming out over the next kind of weeks and months as we go into 2020. But yes, the prize was designed on DH is initially run by the Royal Foundation and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, but the long term plan is for it to actually eventually become its own independent or organisation on DH Prince William. The Duke's hopes are to build the biggest coalition of scientists, economic economists, activists, leaders, government businesses, philanthropists, cities and countries ever established in the field on DH. The funding and the organisation itself is supported by a global coalition off throwin therapists and other organisations. So yeah, I think this one is just the perfect finish at the 2019 considering you know that we're recording this while you know they're Australia is burning a horrific Lee large rate, their fires in Brazil still, and all of these things that are happening So actually to have something like this as we go into 2020 to help centralise all of these thought processes and action plans. I thought this was a really great 12 finish on it's called Earth Shop. Because off the term Moonshot, which became a colloquial term for innovation during the sixties during the race to the moon. So it was one under JFK when he, you know, the chaste to the moon basically happened within a decade and innovations that came out of the technology advancements, including things like Marie Scanners on. So it became a term moon shot when it was your attempt to go beyond and to find the new thing. So I thought I'd surprise was actually very well done s so everyone should definitely go on DH. Follow on Instagram and Twitter. I think it's Earth shock, top or

Jack:   43:49
or google dot com on then

Neil:   43:51
google dot com An earth surprise. But yeah, I think that one's gonna be a great one to see how that one evolved over the next 10 years.

Jack:   44:00
I look forward to it. Solving climate change

Neil:   44:03
me too. So that's it. That is our wrap up of 2019 on DH. We're going into 2020 full of hope, optimism and positivity on DH. Hopefully a lot more good. Good things to come.

Jack:   44:20
Yes, including next episode.

Neil:   44:24
We've got a great one for you. Next episode. Actually, we've got a guest with us who were very excited to share her storey with you.

Jack:   44:32
What a great storey

Neil:   44:33
It is a great storey, but that's all you're getting. You have to tune back in for that one. In the meantime, you know the rules. Don't forget to follow us. Come and say hi on social media at a good, good thing. Let us know what good things are happening to you or anything else you want us to look at or to talk about, but otherwise wishing you a great 2020. Remember to do what you can when you can to make things better around

Jack:   45:01
where you are on DH also to re contextualised things, to realise that actually, there are a lot of good things around us even when we think that we're under pressure. Andi can't think of any of them. Terrible psych advice from some guy out of my way from place. Where idea? Just tell people. Teo